March 2, 2021 at 3:52 am #10714
I recently purchased an 80/20 plan which I intend to start next week. I am currently establishing my 80/20 heart rate zones.
On the page https://www.8020endurance.com/how-to-create-8020-zones-on-your-garmin-device/, entitled “How to Create 80/20 Zones on Your Garmin Device”, the first paragraph states:
“If you have an 80/20 electronic run or triathlon plan this document is not necessary, as your custom 80/20 zones will be delivered to your device.”
How and when is this delivery to the device? I have set some dummy figures in Training Peaks which are reflected in all the 80/20 workouts which have been synchronised to my Garmin 645 workout calendar. However, the heart rate zones on the Garmin are currently unchanged.
So does “delivery to my device” actually happen? I’m happy to enter all the zones manually via Garmin Connect but I won’t bother if it’s going to happen automatically somehow sometime.
Thanks!March 2, 2021 at 11:38 am #10722
Once you link your Garmin with training peaks, the workouts automagically arrive to your watchMarch 2, 2021 at 1:30 pm #10724
Thanks Martin. I already had the Garmin linked, and the workouts had gone across to the Connect calendar. My issue is that the heart rate zones on the Garmin had not been changed to reflect those in Training Peaks. I know that the text for the workouts lists the target zones, but the text “your custom 80/20 zones will be delivered to your device” led me to believe that the Garmin zones would be updated automatically.March 2, 2021 at 1:57 pm #10725
ahhh, ok with you now (I think) – from memory I think it works like this (a while since I set mine up) – the workouts from Training Peaks will be delivered to your watch – based on the zones in your profile on Training Peaks (hence the “your custom zones will be delivered to your device” bit). You get a widget which guides you through the workout and tells you what zone to be in and when etc – which is all based on your zone info from your Training Peaks profile.
If you want to use Garmin Connect as well afterwards to view your data – then yes you will need to set the heart rate zones in Garmin to match your 80/20 ones as this will not unfortunately happen automagically.
You’ll also have to manually set your Strava zones etcMarch 2, 2021 at 6:34 pm #10735David WardenKeymaster
Martin, thanks for stepping in.
Hamslay, the structured workout from TrainingPeaks that is delivered to your device does not override your Garmin zones. The custom zones are packaged in an individual widget/screen. Whatever custom zones you see in your Workout Details in TrainingPeaks are sent with the workout to the device, and remain independent of any other Garmin settings.
In fact Garmin zones are not really customizable. Sure, you can change the value of each of their pre-set zones bucket, but you can’t actually change the number of zone buckets. Also, Garmin does not provide the ability to set Pace zones (they are a GPS company, weird). So, even if TP did send data to Garmin to replace what you have for Garmin zones, Garmin could not accept it. Therefore, the custom zones are packaged individually with the workout on a separate screen.
Make sure you also take a look at the document Understanding Your TrainingPeaks Structured Workout Plan even if you don’t use a full 80/20 plan, as Step 2 of that doc is required for any plan on TP for your custom zones to flow down to a device.
DavidMarch 3, 2021 at 1:11 am #10740
Thank you both.
It does make sense that the target zones are within the workout. It just sounded like the zones themselves might be updated which would be good, as the various data screens etc that I normally use have different colours for the zones and it’s those colours rather than numbers are what I’m used to referring to when sticking within a zone for low intensity sessions.
David, when you say “The custom zones are packaged in an individual widget/screen.”, are you referring to the default Workout option on the Garmin, or are you suggesting downloading a specific app such as the one on https://www.8020endurance.com/80-20-garmin-apps/ ?March 3, 2021 at 2:17 am #10741
“The custom zones are packaged in an individual widget/screen.”, are you referring to the default Workout option on the Garmin
No – you get one workout widget/screen every day for each workout.
You hit the top right button on the watch, it says something like Today:RF10 and then gives you a yes/no to do the workout. If you want to do the workout – you hit yes (obviously), and then it opens up the individual workout widget/screen and you do the workout – it essentially gives you a one use daily date widget/screen – you can still cycle through your other data screens with the bottom left button if you wish while doing the workout, but I’ve never felt the need to use anything other than the daily workout screen/widget while following a plan
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