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Swim training time

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  • #11860
    bondiben
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    Hey team,

    Got an interesting question. I’m doing a unique multi discipline sport that is made up of 4 different disciplines. One of them is swimming.

    The race swim length is 3.5km of open water swimming. The total race length is 44km meaning the swim component is roughly 7% of the race.

    In an Ironman the swim is roughly 1.7% of the race length.
    If you have programmed in some plans specifically Ironman level 3 3 swims a week. I was planning to swim a minimum of 3 swims but up to 5. Is that appropriate?

    Cheers
    Be

    #11875
    Matt Fitzgerald
    Moderator

    It’s best to think in terms of time vs. distance in apportioning training in specific multisport disciplines. Slower disciplines (swimming being the slowest) account for more time per unit of distance. It’s also helpful to consider the cost-benefit ratio from a potential improvement perspective. A minute spent in your weakest discipline is generally worth more than a minute spent in your strongest.

    #11880
    bondiben
    Participant

    Yes all very fair points. I’m a pretty decent swimmer and was looking at doing a 3.5km open water swim in 55mins.
    I’ve spoken to a couple of very accomplished coaches, there strategy is not so much 80/20 more 60/40 or 50/50.
    Knowning what I know now I’m not sure that’s the best strategy.
    Using the 80-20 methodology I was going to include swims up to 5km to help build endurance.
    What are your thoughts?

    Cheers

    #11883
    Matt Fitzgerald
    Moderator

    If you’re motivated, I highly recommend overdistance swims of one kind or another in training for multisport events that involve swimming. These can take the form of straight endurance swims or interval swims totaling up to 3000+ meters or both. I’d do both.

    #11887
    bondiben
    Participant

    Okay thanks again for that.
    Keeping in mind of the zones and percentage of zones in training.

    #11888
    bondiben
    Participant

    I’m on a roll!!
    What’s your thoughts on swim training like a swimmer with specifics around pull bouys paddles fins or kicking in general as all the swims in the workout library don’t have anything other than swimming?

    Cheers

    #11892
    Matt Fitzgerald
    Moderator

    We’re working on beefing up our swim training offerings, but that is a medium- to long-term project. In the meantime, I recommend making use of some of the tips included in Jerry Rodriguez’s book TRIATHLON SWIMMING.

    #11919
    bondiben
    Participant

    Thanks Matt,

    I checked that book out, pretty interesting stuff. I’m borderline level 1/2 based off his guide.

    I think I was trying to over think the swimming again. Balancing the intensity of the swimming with the other disciplines seems I will do hard swim with easy other disciplines

    Cheers
    Ben

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