February 2, 2022 at 2:43 pm #16360
My power based 80/20 Workout plan shows every workout with a range of power. so zone 2 would be let’s say 180-220 Watts. But when i do the workout on zwift on erg mode it ‘s way too hard for a zone 2 ride. it always takes the top wattage which sometimes is even out of my zone..
tp and zwift have the same ftp setting..
what do i do wrong? i alwasy have to adjust my ftp setting when i want to do an easy workout..February 2, 2022 at 8:05 pm #16370
I might be wrong, but I think the structured workouts are based on % FTP. So when they get pulled into Zwift, Zwift uses the FTP from your Zwift profile. I think you need to manually set your FTP in Zwift to match the FTP you use to set your zones, which is probably why the power targets don’t match what you would expect.February 3, 2022 at 10:24 am #16381
no it’s the same.. i’m used to other power zones, like strava makes zone 2 wider but not so far up.. so my comphy zone 2 rides are at around 190w (like strava tells me my zone 2 is), but 80/20 puts me at around 210.. maybe i just have to adapt eh? 😉February 3, 2022 at 12:28 pm #16382CharlesParticipant
I did the ramp tests on Zwift and just input the results into the 80/20 calculator and it seems to work fine.
But, the prompts I get on Zwift, while in the proper zones, do not reveal the 80/20 zones and the prompts take me to about the mid range of the desired zone. I only get a warning when I drop below or above the zones sent to Zwift by Training Peaks. I just make a mental note of the boundaries and it’s been good enough.
Also, I’ve seen the recommendation here and elsewhere not to use egr mode for workouts on Zwift. There is a great resource at https://www.youtube.com/c/EverythingIsPhotogenic/videos that goes into depth on practical considerations about training on Zwift as well as explaining endurance training in general.February 3, 2022 at 12:41 pm #16383
Hmm, other ideas: have you done a calibration of your trainer in Zwift lately?
Also, I assume you’re using 80/20 workouts that are presumably imported from TrainingPeaks. Is that right? Or are you doing Zwift-provided workouts?February 3, 2022 at 12:46 pm #16384
thanks for the input! i realized that 80/20 has different %FTP than most other.. so they use 70%-83% of ftp which is more than most so it feels harder to ride zone 2..
yeah i import from trainingpeaks and have a 80/20 planFebruary 3, 2022 at 1:17 pm #16385
You mentioned that Zwift gives you a power target sometimes above your Zone 2… Do you mean above your 80/20 Zone 2 range? That shouldn’t happen – if it is, something else is still not right. Like @Charles said, for me Zwift will take the midpoint of the power range for each workout segment in TrainingPeaks (with the exception of warmup/cooldown which Zwift chooses to ramp up/down).February 3, 2022 at 1:28 pm #16386
nono! zwift does the same for me, it is about midpoint between the power range..
but trainingpeaks has e set zone to in % which is somewhat higher than other “zone 2″‘s of other guru’s, strava etc.. so a zone 2 ride on 80/20 is higher %ftp than other coaches.. that’s why it feels heavierFebruary 4, 2022 at 6:10 am #16389CharlesParticipant
I’m not a fan of erg mode for workouts. It seems illogical for 80/20 workouts where we are given a range of power for each zone so we can adjust to how we feel on a given day or as we fatigue during a workout. I prefer that flexibility, plus it allows me to interact with other nearby riders which can be motivating as my energy flags.
If you are committed to use erg mode you can work around the issue by changing the workout bias on Zwift to a harder or easier effort. The effect will be only for that given workout and you will avoid messing with FTP across devices.
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