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Walking ~20 MPW at Work // Effects on Training

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  • #9201
    Scotty
    Participant

    Hey David,

    Due to Covid and tough financial times, I picked up a job waiting tables in the middle of my marathon 1 plan. From weeks 1-12 I was crushing it and felt great. Around Week 12 I started working 4-6 nights a week and walk an average of 4-7 miles a night. I am on my feet for 4-6 hours.

    Due to two races I added(won the last one!! Big thanks to you!), I am at week 26 of this training plan. With added taper and rebuilds.

    Recently I have had a hard time getting out the door especially on long run days(i missed the last 3/4). I have also been sleeping way more than normal 9-10 hours vs 8.

    Do you have any thoughts on how much this extra ~20 mile a week works out to in extra “running miles”? I have my big race(first 50k) in 2 weeks and am a little bummed about how I am going into it.

    It’s a tough time all around and I can only control so much. With that said I would love your thoughts so I can choose a solid next plan with my current situation. I will most likely be waiting tables for abother 6-12 months.

    I am planning to do a 50k or 50-mile next depending on how I do.

    Thank you for your time!

    Scotty

    #9209
    David Warden
    Keymaster

    Scotty,

    Congratulations on your win!

    I regret that I don’t have a great answer. The truth is that you are introducing a significant amount of fatigue, and that fatigue is not generating a lot run fitness. It’s like playing tennis for a couple of hours a day: it is great exercise, and great for tennis fitness, but it will help very little with a marathon. I experienced something similar in 2019 when I spent 2 weeks in London, about 4 hours a day on my feet in museums (how I miss you, National Gallery!). After the first 3 days, I absolutely could not maintain my run training from being on my feet that long each day and had to dial back.

    Walking and standing have great benefits, but almost none translate to running. And, as you have discovered, excess walking and standing will introduce fatigue regardless. Not what you wanted to hear I’m sure, but you should actually be able gain more standing and walking “fitness” which will lead to less fatigue from your job in the long run. It will never go away, but will eventually introduce less fatigue.

    The best thing you can do is to accelerate recovery through nutrition, rest, and sleep. I would look at this as an opportunity to really refine those habits, and when you are no longer walking so much you’ll have these habits firmly cemented.

    Which plan to use next? There is nothing wrong with using a Level 0 or Level 1 plan while you are going through this transition. You can always level up later, even mid-plan as you feel more recovered.

    David

    #9457
    Scotty
    Participant

    Hey David,

    Thank you for the great detailed reply!!

    The race was tough, my hips tightened up like at work and I had to walk the last few miles even though I was not physically tired. I am 30 and felt like I had the legs of a 90 year old.

    Luckily I just quit the job and am looking forward to training at 100%

    I can’t say thank you enough for all of your help!

    Cheers,
    Scotty

    #9463
    David Warden
    Keymaster

    Scotty, thanks for reporting back! Too bad about the hips. You’ll get it next time.

    David

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