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April 11, 2021 at 11:34 pm #11418
luigi
ParticipantHi Matt and all forum friends.
I was wondering if any wearable that can track respiratory rate and thus tell us where we are in terms of VT1 and VT2 exists.
I use a Oura ring: it measures my respiratory rate, but only at night and it only provides me with one night average. Oura says the ring estimates respiratory rate based on my HR reading, so I suppose any good running HR monitor should be able to measure respiratory rate.
What do you know about the development of such technology/algorithm? Here in Singapore the weather is making my HR useless. On the other hand, I feel too inexperienced to train solely on RPE.
Luigi
April 12, 2021 at 4:28 am #11419MartinH
ParticipantThat’s one of the problems with HR, it’s too easily affected by external things like the weather.
Can you not use pace ?
Or, if interested in wearables as you seem to be, have you looked at a stryd pod so you could run with power? that will solve these issuesApril 12, 2021 at 6:46 am #11420luigi
ParticipantHi Martin. Thanks for the reply.
Indeed, I’m starting to ditch HR and use pace for faster workouts. But for long and steady Z2 I fear that I may end up above the aerobic threshold. I could slow down the pace even more and be conservative (MAF?), but you know how frustrating it is. I “accept” to run slow, but let me run as fast as possible within that aerobic zone.
So my cry for a wearable is to allow me to be sure to train aerobically with peace of mind: look at one piece of data and run according. It was HR, but VT would probably be better.
Luigi
April 12, 2021 at 6:48 am #11421Matt Fitzgerald
KeymasterHi Luigi,
The answer is yes. I’ve demoed this product and it’s good:
https://www.tymewear.com/pages/home
Coach Matt
April 13, 2021 at 3:59 am #11439luigi
ParticipantHi Matt, thank you. I did not know this tyme wear: interesting! I’m not sure I’m as serious as to be ready to pay 200$ for it. It would certainly be an interesting experiment.
April 13, 2021 at 7:00 am #11441luigi
ParticipantI’ve just had a crazy idea: without going into the complexity of continuous monitoring, recording and broadcasting respiratory rate to our gps watches, what is your opinion about checking respiratory rate during runs with a simple oximeter? It’d be a way to keep our LSD runs under VT1 using data and a relatively cheap serviice. Would it be reliable?
LuigiApril 13, 2021 at 9:31 am #11448Matt Fitzgerald
KeymasterInteresting question. I didn’t know the answer off the top of my head, but my first thought was that if it were viable, it would already be a thing. So, I did some searching and found that validation studies done in the ’90s found poor reliability:
April 14, 2021 at 1:41 am #11452luigi
ParticipantThank you!
April 18, 2021 at 7:09 pm #11510tedc
ParticipantThat shirt is $200 per month… not $200. Wow
April 19, 2021 at 7:21 pm #11519luigi
ParticipantWOW, I hadn’t noticed. They can definitely keep it 🙂
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